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		<title>By: trini</title>
		<link>http://www.deannazandt.com/2009/02/17/citibank-fraud-fail-and-loss-of-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-25939</link>
		<dc:creator>trini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 06:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW!!! I found this by doing a &quot;citibank fraud&quot; search.  The ONLY difference is the amount.  My debit card was stolen and the criminal shopped and bought money orders (all within an hour) to the tune of nearly $9,000.  This happened on August 3 and I&#039;m still battling with Citibank.  Same run around with customer no-service.  I&#039;m going to report them to the FBI and Attorney General.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW!!! I found this by doing a &#8220;citibank fraud&#8221; search.  The ONLY difference is the amount.  My debit card was stolen and the criminal shopped and bought money orders (all within an hour) to the tune of nearly $9,000.  This happened on August 3 and I&#8217;m still battling with Citibank.  Same run around with customer no-service.  I&#8217;m going to report them to the FBI and Attorney General.</p>
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		<title>By: kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 14:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 2008, a guy I was dating decided he would steal my debt card number to pay a few of his bills, and steal a check, forge my name, and cash it for $1000. Besides the devestation of betrayal , I am attempting (still in 2010) to prosecute this man going thru the Suffolk county Assistant DA In Boston,Ma. 
Citibank gave me the funds 3 months later, and has no intention of prosecuting the man.The amount taken was appro. $1300, which is a felony but would cost the bank more in attorneys fees to prosecute.
The case means nothing to assistant DA, she isnt prepared for court when in court,doesnt show up at times or notify me, doesnt schedule appointments as promised to the court, or even return my phone calls.
I was told that its a first offense and nothing would happen anyway at one point.
The guy works in Security for the State of Massachusettes, and is in the US Air Force. 
Our system is a disgrace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2008, a guy I was dating decided he would steal my debt card number to pay a few of his bills, and steal a check, forge my name, and cash it for $1000. Besides the devestation of betrayal , I am attempting (still in 2010) to prosecute this man going thru the Suffolk county Assistant DA In Boston,Ma.<br />
Citibank gave me the funds 3 months later, and has no intention of prosecuting the man.The amount taken was appro. $1300, which is a felony but would cost the bank more in attorneys fees to prosecute.<br />
The case means nothing to assistant DA, she isnt prepared for court when in court,doesnt show up at times or notify me, doesnt schedule appointments as promised to the court, or even return my phone calls.<br />
I was told that its a first offense and nothing would happen anyway at one point.<br />
The guy works in Security for the State of Massachusettes, and is in the US Air Force.<br />
Our system is a disgrace.</p>
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		<title>By: amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>deanna, I am not sure if you are still on this blog or not, but I had to respond.

Your blog came up in my Google search of &#039;citibank fraud&#039;. Since my husband recently had credit card fraud on his citibank sears card. Nothing major (thank goodness) and yes, credit card fraud is a lot easier to deal with than debit card fraud.

I have never owned a debit card, and never will. I will tell you why - it is like inviting the world to have access (DIRECT ACCESS) to your checking/savings account! No thanks. I stick to credit cards, which I pay off fully, each month - no interest, no fees, no penalties. But then again, I pay attention to what I am spending and am able to cover my charges every month with no problem (I am frugal - and anal! lol).

I understand the concept behind debit cards and I understand why people use them. There are people who just should not have credit cards, the temptation is too much to spend and spend, and then just pay the minimal payment each month, and then before you know it, whoosh, you are 55 years old and have $30K in debt on your credit cards! Not good. so yes, debit cards are sometimes a godsend and a must-have, for people who cannot keep track of their credit card spending, or , have a hard time paying off their c/c each month - fully. Hard to write that &#039;big check&#039; each month! Easier to pay the minimal amount. But me, being totally resistant to owing ANYONE money, I have no problem paying off my credit card each month. (and I only have one credit card).

You have probably resolved your issue by now (it is now November) and if so, can you update and let us know? lol. What did you decide to do?

I was going to suggest to you to go the credit card route, instead of the debit card route. I hate the fact that *anyone* out there can have *any* access whatsoever to my personal checking or savings accounts. I do not even do &quot;online payment&quot; of my  bills - I still write them out by hand! lol -- because I just do not want the hassles, as you so humorously wrote about, of doing fraud reports and police reports and affadavits and all that nonsense. If someone wants to steal from my checking/savings, they will have to do it via hacking into someone&#039;s (my utility company, my cel phone provider, my bank) computers and getting my bank information that way. They will never get it from a debit card. I also keep all my bank statements, I never throw them in the trash. 

So while &quot;electronic convenience&quot; in this day and age is very nice, I do not mind going into my bank, in person, to get cash, and I do not mind writing out checks by hand (still). I know - I am antiquated. I do not know if I will ever catch up to the 21st century, haha. I am only 45 by the way. So I should be into all this technology and electronic crapola, but I am not. I was also a software engineer for a couple of decades. I know how systems can be hacked, I know how software programs can have a ton of loopholes and black holes and glitches! I do not trust any computer program (even encryption) within an inch of my life. That being said, yes I have a credit card. But oh well, I need that convenience.

The credit card companies seem very quick to notice fraudulent purchases and they shut down the c/c right away until they get ahold of you.

If you have a very busy, hectic life and cannot manage the time to write your own bills (no online payment, no debit card) or go to the bank to get cash (I have no ATM card either), then you are kinda stuck with the online payment and debit card thing. 

Anyways besides blabbering non stop, the other reason I wanted to reply is because I found your writeup very humorous and wanted to tell you so! I like your style. I am just sorry you had to go through all that. I think this is going to be &quot;the way life is&quot; from now on -- since everything is going electronic and online-ish.

cheers! I hope you are having better days!
amy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>deanna, I am not sure if you are still on this blog or not, but I had to respond.</p>
<p>Your blog came up in my Google search of &#8216;citibank fraud&#8217;. Since my husband recently had credit card fraud on his citibank sears card. Nothing major (thank goodness) and yes, credit card fraud is a lot easier to deal with than debit card fraud.</p>
<p>I have never owned a debit card, and never will. I will tell you why &#8211; it is like inviting the world to have access (DIRECT ACCESS) to your checking/savings account! No thanks. I stick to credit cards, which I pay off fully, each month &#8211; no interest, no fees, no penalties. But then again, I pay attention to what I am spending and am able to cover my charges every month with no problem (I am frugal &#8211; and anal! lol).</p>
<p>I understand the concept behind debit cards and I understand why people use them. There are people who just should not have credit cards, the temptation is too much to spend and spend, and then just pay the minimal payment each month, and then before you know it, whoosh, you are 55 years old and have $30K in debt on your credit cards! Not good. so yes, debit cards are sometimes a godsend and a must-have, for people who cannot keep track of their credit card spending, or , have a hard time paying off their c/c each month &#8211; fully. Hard to write that &#8216;big check&#8217; each month! Easier to pay the minimal amount. But me, being totally resistant to owing ANYONE money, I have no problem paying off my credit card each month. (and I only have one credit card).</p>
<p>You have probably resolved your issue by now (it is now November) and if so, can you update and let us know? lol. What did you decide to do?</p>
<p>I was going to suggest to you to go the credit card route, instead of the debit card route. I hate the fact that *anyone* out there can have *any* access whatsoever to my personal checking or savings accounts. I do not even do &#8220;online payment&#8221; of my  bills &#8211; I still write them out by hand! lol &#8212; because I just do not want the hassles, as you so humorously wrote about, of doing fraud reports and police reports and affadavits and all that nonsense. If someone wants to steal from my checking/savings, they will have to do it via hacking into someone&#8217;s (my utility company, my cel phone provider, my bank) computers and getting my bank information that way. They will never get it from a debit card. I also keep all my bank statements, I never throw them in the trash. </p>
<p>So while &#8220;electronic convenience&#8221; in this day and age is very nice, I do not mind going into my bank, in person, to get cash, and I do not mind writing out checks by hand (still). I know &#8211; I am antiquated. I do not know if I will ever catch up to the 21st century, haha. I am only 45 by the way. So I should be into all this technology and electronic crapola, but I am not. I was also a software engineer for a couple of decades. I know how systems can be hacked, I know how software programs can have a ton of loopholes and black holes and glitches! I do not trust any computer program (even encryption) within an inch of my life. That being said, yes I have a credit card. But oh well, I need that convenience.</p>
<p>The credit card companies seem very quick to notice fraudulent purchases and they shut down the c/c right away until they get ahold of you.</p>
<p>If you have a very busy, hectic life and cannot manage the time to write your own bills (no online payment, no debit card) or go to the bank to get cash (I have no ATM card either), then you are kinda stuck with the online payment and debit card thing. </p>
<p>Anyways besides blabbering non stop, the other reason I wanted to reply is because I found your writeup very humorous and wanted to tell you so! I like your style. I am just sorry you had to go through all that. I think this is going to be &#8220;the way life is&#8221; from now on &#8212; since everything is going electronic and online-ish.</p>
<p>cheers! I hope you are having better days!<br />
amy</p>
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		<title>By: lana</title>
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		<dc:creator>lana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well they cashed a check in my name to a person with a totally different name for almost 6,000. and i have had nothing but a bunch of crap from them..god they are screwed up..there was no ID produced from me who the check was pay to the order of..and the other person just had a account to put it in and did that..no where was that persons name on the check but she signed my name and pay to the order of her on the back..no ID asked for or shown..and they say I have to fight for it back..damn almost $6,000 and they even say they would never even do that..well how come its been a year and they still haven&#039;t paid my money back? it was my grandfathers life insurance settlement to me from when he passed away..they are NO HELP..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well they cashed a check in my name to a person with a totally different name for almost 6,000. and i have had nothing but a bunch of crap from them..god they are screwed up..there was no ID produced from me who the check was pay to the order of..and the other person just had a account to put it in and did that..no where was that persons name on the check but she signed my name and pay to the order of her on the back..no ID asked for or shown..and they say I have to fight for it back..damn almost $6,000 and they even say they would never even do that..well how come its been a year and they still haven&#8217;t paid my money back? it was my grandfathers life insurance settlement to me from when he passed away..they are NO HELP..</p>
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		<title>By: amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to pop your LESPFCU bubble or anything but they get the special wacky prize for *consistently* taking my membership fee out of my savings account, in which I kept the minimum balance ($25) necessary to get free checking. Membership fee would knock me down to $20, triggering fees for my no longer free checking. It was more than a little infuriating. They also weren&#039;t really that much nicer about the whole thing. So don&#039;t get your hopes up. 

It sounds like Citibank could have handled it better -- a little &quot;oh shit, that sounds awful. Listen, I know this isn&#039;t what you want to hear but in the case of a fraud like this you have to report it in person.&quot; goes a long, long ways. 

I know that there are people out there with credit card problems, but this is exactly why I use credit cards and not my debit card. If someone gets ahold of my credit card number and runs up a million fraudulent charges, it is not my problem. I mean, I have to deal with it, but the charges stay in Visa limbo while I do and the issue comes down to Visa vs. the merchant who accepted the card.

Your bank account info is a lot more precious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to pop your LESPFCU bubble or anything but they get the special wacky prize for *consistently* taking my membership fee out of my savings account, in which I kept the minimum balance ($25) necessary to get free checking. Membership fee would knock me down to $20, triggering fees for my no longer free checking. It was more than a little infuriating. They also weren&#8217;t really that much nicer about the whole thing. So don&#8217;t get your hopes up. </p>
<p>It sounds like Citibank could have handled it better &#8212; a little &#8220;oh shit, that sounds awful. Listen, I know this isn&#8217;t what you want to hear but in the case of a fraud like this you have to report it in person.&#8221; goes a long, long ways. </p>
<p>I know that there are people out there with credit card problems, but this is exactly why I use credit cards and not my debit card. If someone gets ahold of my credit card number and runs up a million fraudulent charges, it is not my problem. I mean, I have to deal with it, but the charges stay in Visa limbo while I do and the issue comes down to Visa vs. the merchant who accepted the card.</p>
<p>Your bank account info is a lot more precious.</p>
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		<title>By: WolfZ3</title>
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		<dc:creator>WolfZ3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, a consumer advocate I listen to on the radio has the perfect term for those knuckleheads: &quot;Customer No-Service&quot;.

Second, I know you&#039;re looking for a local CU, but if all else fails I can probably get you in mine from my military days.  Also, check out bankrate.com for latest rates.

Third, I&#039;ll shoot you an e-mail or give you a call (or call me) so we can go over some other things that need to be done.

Big Brother</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, a consumer advocate I listen to on the radio has the perfect term for those knuckleheads: &#8220;Customer No-Service&#8221;.</p>
<p>Second, I know you&#8217;re looking for a local CU, but if all else fails I can probably get you in mine from my military days.  Also, check out bankrate.com for latest rates.</p>
<p>Third, I&#8217;ll shoot you an e-mail or give you a call (or call me) so we can go over some other things that need to be done.</p>
<p>Big Brother</p>
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		<title>By: jackilugg</title>
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		<dc:creator>jackilugg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 04:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Who clicks on these tags anyway?
2. The LES CU sounds like the beginning of the People&#039;s Front of Judea, NY Sect. Also the Judean People&#039;s Front, Sect in NY.
3. This sucks. Someone  took money from me electronically several months ago and TD (was Commerce) remedied it immediately, but I still had to go to a branch. Something about verifying my identity, blah blah blah. ;)
4. My theft was only about $36, so I&#039;ll shut up.
5. Really, this sucks. I&#039;m sorry. :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Who clicks on these tags anyway?<br />
2. The LES CU sounds like the beginning of the People&#8217;s Front of Judea, NY Sect. Also the Judean People&#8217;s Front, Sect in NY.<br />
3. This sucks. Someone  took money from me electronically several months ago and TD (was Commerce) remedied it immediately, but I still had to go to a branch. Something about verifying my identity, blah blah blah. ;)<br />
4. My theft was only about $36, so I&#8217;ll shut up.<br />
5. Really, this sucks. I&#8217;m sorry. :-(</p>
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